Friday, March 27, 2009

"Losing My Religion" by William Lobdell

Just listened to the FFRF podcast interview of Feb. 28 with William Lobdell, author of Losing My Religion I actually became physically sick listening to that interview, my stomach still feels awkward.
There may be worse crimes and many people and children may have suffered more but none of the criminal pedophile rapists were so supported by their communities and protected by the organization that they worked for as the priests in the catholic church.
It is so horrible that the truth had to be held back, appalling, lay it all open I say, expose those fucking catholic rapists pedophile priests (sorry, my stomach is still in a knot after hearing that, if anything even remotely like that would happen to my children no one would be able to stop me, I'm adamantly against the death penalty and am really non-violent but, can't even continue this sentence)

Thursday, March 19, 2009

Vatican backtracks over doctors involved in providing abortion to a raped nine-year-old -Times Online

Vatican backtracks over doctors involved in providing abortion to a raped nine-year-old -Times Online

As is the case so often they "repent" only after a huge public outcry (where was their religiously tuned morality when they decided "too hastily").
One can only imagine in horror what they'd do if they acquired actual power again to suppress media and impose their laws. 
The dark ages may be in our history but those people would be overjoyed to return to them.
WAY too little, WAY too late I say, they should not have stuck their noses in this case in the first place, anything they continue to say about this is an affront to humanity, only their backtracking into a dark cold cave would be a marginally adequate reaction.

Some questions I have about this:

Where was their finely tuned religious morality when they were "too hastily" deciding the ex-communication?
Does anyone really believe they would "backtrack" if there had not been a public outcry? (thus showing the flexibility of so called dogma)
How many "too hastily" ex-communicated people are there in Brazile who are because of this ostracized by their community but about whom we do not hear and for whom the church does not backtrack?
What are "systematic" abortions? If there is another similar case and it is the same doctors who perform the operation are they then systematic? Why would a 2nd (3rd, 4th,...) similar case be morally different?
How can dogma be flexible?

As I see it, their dogma is not flexible, they still and will continue to condemn everyone.
But there is a greater force than their dogma, when there is a real and actual risk of losing "souls" (ie. $$$) they will start a damage control program that overrides the dogma.

Oh, yeah and the vatican is evil
(wouldn't it be at least a little uplifting if Google results for vatican would return the wiki for Evil and vice versa?)

Friday, March 13, 2009

Moral scale

vatican defends abortion expulsions

It is just too easy to compare this to rapist priest protections while excommunicating victims because they dared talk to authorities after their confession was declared "a secret" (see also: but that is exactly what came to mind as I was reading the latest update of this Brazilian case.

How evil is even the partial defense of the father (who also liked the handicapped sister a lot). catholics cannot just claim that that is not their "faith" these are the people who write the dogma, who are in charge, this is not a case of a catholic politician or some crazy catholic neighbor, these are bishops, diocese, the fucking vatican!
They define the catholic's faith. I've read that one of the doctors plans to continue going to church and will continues to call himself catholic, I'll never ever understand that, if I'm with the scouts and they expel me for an action that I consider good and the highest scout leaders supported the expulsion, then I would not try to go to the meetings in the hope that certain scout groups would not follow their leaders and that I could stay under the radar, NO, I'd start going against the scouts, if I still wanted the values that I thought were important I'd start my own group and call them outdoorsers or naturepeople but not scouts and I'd speak out about all the bad things of the scouts.

Now ex-communication in my view is like blasphemy, a non punishment, I'd even like it, but in their society it is still a big deal and they can be expected to become social pariahs.
This is further torture of a RAPE VICTIM the catholic church should forever be linked to evil!

Just to show that I don't shield from other news sources, I found this site named Conservative Truth, now only in rare cases will there be much rational to be found on such sites and the subtitle seems to agree with that statement.
But the following article about catholic priests was very informative, well written and I agree with everything in it.
Why Aren’t Sexually Abusive catholic Priests Excommunicated?
It is still very relevant to the current situation, I think Mary Mostert should update her article with this Brazilian case.

And if you look at what their precious bible tells them then abortions is not even such a big crime, at least not as big a crime as picking up sticks on the sabbath:
And if men struggle and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
- Exodus 21:22-25

A simple fine for causing a the woman of a couple WHO WANTS THE BABY to miscarriage, I can imagine that if the husband (notice that the woman has no say about the fine) did not want the kid then he'd not ask for a big fine and might even befriend the guy he was fighting with after he caused the miscarriage.

Here's some more bible bits about abortion

Of course rape is not such a big thing in the bible either, was 50 shekels a lot of money back then or are those mail order brides overpriced (and they don't even give a free ride first like in the bible)

Vile just vile.

Tuesday, March 10, 2009

You got it made when

there are Google Maps mashups of your cause

Losing their religion